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    120hz CRT @800x600 at least

    Need a second monitor. I have a Sony FW900 CRT, I want to have two monitors and I want another crt. Give me some suggestions on CRTs that will do 120hz @ at least 800x600 and don't cost too much. Like under $100 would be cool.

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    where do you even find crts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adderall View Post
    where do you even find crts
    Haha, that's what I'd like to know. Sometimes you'll come across them in thrift stores and the obvious places like craigslist or ebay. It seems all the ones I find are not capable of refresh rates over 85Hz.

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    if you have recycle shops (basicly stuff thats been salvaged off dump/tip sites) check those.
    check out any brands that use the sony trinitron tube, like dell, compaq etc.
    also look for mitsubishis diamontron tube, some people think they were superior, although i've never come across one of those, atleast not at 21''

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    Try asking in the ESR hardware section as well.

    The IIyama Visionmaster 450 Pro is a classic. Along with pretty much all Iiyama CRTs.

    Other good ones include: Viewsonic P90f and Samsung 955DF

    Obviously the FW900 is like the best crt ever so yeah, you're unlikely to find quite the same quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maver1ck View Post
    Need a second monitor. I have a Sony FW900 CRT, I want to have two monitors and I want another crt. Give me some suggestions on CRTs that will do 120hz @ at least 800x600 and don't cost too much. Like under $100 would be cool.

    Maver1ck
    Almost any crt will do 120hz @ that resolution, usually the bigger the crt the higher chance of being able to use a res above 8x6..mine can do 120hz @ 1280x960 (21inch) and my sons can do it at 8x6 (15inch) so if you get one around 19+ inches you should be good, generally speaking.

    adderall: craigslist or similar local site :] mine was 20$ sony triniton dell 21inch

    ret: if you arent able to set to 120hz maybe try using video card properties to set up a custom resolution @ 120hz

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    Don't go by maker/model/size (really brainwreck, size guarantees refresh rate?).

    Instead, check horizontal sync values for each monitor. They will look like 27-86 kHz or 30-115 kHz etc. You're only interested in the maximum value.

    To get 120 Hz, you need:
    124 kHz for 1280x960
    112 kHz for 1152x864
    99 kHz for 1024x768
    78 kHz for 800x600

    My friend got a Sun CRT with 130 kHz horiz sync for example, so he can play at 1280x960. My iiyama 451 goes up to 115 kHz, so I play at 1152x864.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lam View Post
    Don't go by maker/model/size (really brainwreck, size guarantees refresh rate?).

    Instead, check horizontal sync values for each monitor. They will look like 27-86 kHz or 30-115 kHz etc. You're only interested in the maximum value.

    To get 120 Hz, you need:
    124 kHz for 1280x960
    112 kHz for 1152x864
    99 kHz for 1024x768
    78 kHz for 800x600

    My friend got a Sun CRT with 130 kHz horiz sync for example, so he can play at 1280x960. My iiyama 451 goes up to 115 kHz, so I play at 1152x864.
    130 kHz Horizontal scan is typical for 21"-22" high end CRTs. The highest is probably iiyama Vision Master Pro 512/514 (HA202DT/HM204DT) - 142kHz.

    btw. "usually the bigger the crt the higher chance" vs "size guarantees" - not the same thing.
    Last edited by mi; 03-13-2013 at 06:22 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mi View Post
    130 kHz Horizontal scan is typical for 21"-22" high end CRTs. The highest is probably iiyama Vision Master Pro 512/514 (HA202DT/HM204DT) - 142kHz.
    Oh wow, 1400x1050@120 with some headroom! Sweeeeeet!
    Quote Originally Posted by mi View Post
    btw. "usually the bigger the crt the higher chance" vs "size guarantees" - not the same thing.
    I know, that was exaggeration, but still: what kind of advice is that? The man wants to play at 120 Hz, so he's interested in horiz sync values and nothing else until he finds more than 1 monitor meeting his requirements. He needs to be told just that :)

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    Check out:
    People replacing Sony FW900 with LightBoost monitors.

    original post (Transsive)
    Then yesterday I, for some reason, disabled the 3d and noticed there was no ghosting to be spotted at all in titan quest. It's like playing on my old CRT.
    original post (Inu)
    I can confirm this works on BENQ XL2420TX
    EDIT: And OMG i can play scout so much better now in TF2, this is borderline cheating.
    original post (TerrorHead)
    Thanks for this, it really works! Just tried it on my VG278H. Its like a CRT now!
    original post (Vega)
    Oh my, I just got Skyrim AFK camera spinning (which I used to test LCD's versus the [Sony CRT] FW900) to run without stutters and VSYNC locked to 120. This Benq with Lightboost is just as crystal clear if not clearer than the FW900 motion. I am in awe. More testing tomorrow. Any of my doubts about this Lightboost technology have been vaporized! I've been playing around with this fluid motion on this monitor for like 6-hours straight, that is how impressive it is.
    OCN post (Baxter299)
    way to go vega enjoyed your review and pics ..thanks for taking the time .got my VG248QE last friday .replacing my fw900 witch is finally taking a rest in my closet .
    OCN post (Romir)
    Thanks for the timely review Vega.
    I went ahead and opened mine and WOW, it really does feel like my FW900. I haven't tried a game yet but it's down right eerie seeing 2d text move without going blurry.
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    With my Asus VG278HE at 120Hz and Lightboost (the Lightboost registry hack doesn't currently support 144Hz) playing at 1080p I am pretty much brutalizing my competition. Even with its 2-5ms input lag, which is worse than the 1ms of my old 120Hz monitor the difference with Lightboost is so huge the input lag literally becomes a non-issue. The only thing that matters now that I don't experience any motion blur is my true reaction time.
    The best tweaked LightBoost monitors are less than $300 now.
    It's hard to get a FW900 for that price including eBay shipping.

    Or you can also just get a cheap common 21" CRT that's being thrown away locally; nearly all of those support 120Hz at 800x600 because 21" often supports 1600x1200 @ 60Hz which automatically has the KHz to support 800x600 @ 120Hz. (Unless you've picked up an ancient model)
    Last edited by MaRkYBoX; 03-13-2013 at 04:29 PM.

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