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    1) You say you are out of keys
    To get an extra key for zoom, you can bind several weapons to a single key, instead of binding only one weapon to each key. You can bind mg/gauntlet to the same key and or plasma/bfg to the same key. This gives you 2 free keys.
    2) Do the pros use zoom
    I have no idea how much zoom is used by the pros, so I can only speak for myself. You shouldn't stick to the standard zoom. I use zoom 80 for lg and zoom 80 or less for rg. Sometimes I zoom with the other weapons too.
    3) Zoom and weapon selection with the mouse wheel.
    You can use the following script for zooming (2nd post in the thread):

    http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showt...l=1#post206058

    While you zoom, the mouse wheel zooms in and out. When you don't zoom it changes weapons (weapnext/prev)
    4) Zoom with the mouswheel
    If you don't need weapon selection (I don't) then use this script instead (12th post in the thread):

    http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showt...l=1#post190788
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    Last edited by kadle; 06-29-2012 at 10:49 AM.

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    Kadle, thanks very much. Didn't know about double binds))
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    Quote Originally Posted by vurun View Post
    Didn't know about double binds))
    You can look at this example:

    http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showt...l=1#post189992

    It's a triple bind, but you get the idea. You should read the entire thread to understand the limitations of double binds / triple binds and to see alternative ways of doing double binds.

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    Here is the script that binds pg and bfg to the same key, and mg and gt to the same key.
    Code:
    //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    // Variables
    //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    
    // Plasma and bfg
    set w1 "weapon 8; set bgpg vstr w2"
    set w2 "weapon 9; set bgpg vstr w1"
    
    // Gauntlet and machinegun
    set w3 "weapon 1; set mggt vstr w4"
    set w4 "weapon 2; set mggt vstr w3"
    
    // Variables for binds
    set bgpg "vstr w1"
    set mggt "vstr w3"
    
    //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    // Binds (replace the keys Q and E with your prefered keys)
    //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    bind Q "vstr bgpg"
    bind E "vstr mggt"
    You may need to press the key twice, to select the weapon you want.

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    Last edited by kadle; 06-30-2012 at 05:34 AM.

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    How can you possibly run out of keys? I still have like 10-15 easily accesible ones available, and I do use loads of teambinds (15+?).

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    I tend to play without any zooming because the laggy feel what i get while zooming. At least with rail i usually hit better without any zoom. Though i use zoom for mg and lg, not all the time but usually when an opponent dodges well zooming will help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by str00 View Post
    I tend to play without any zooming because the laggy feel what i get while zooming. At least with rail i usually hit better without any zoom. Though i use zoom for mg and lg, not all the time but usually when an opponent dodges well zooming will help.
    Laggy feel? :-)

    cg_zoomScaling 0 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorfa
    Laggy feel? :-)

    cg_zoomScaling 0 ?
    I didn't mean the moment when i'm zooming in but when the zoom is on already. It's like i'm watching my computer's display with binoculars rather than my player model is using binoculars for zooming. It's quite a hard to explain but the smoothness of the game is very different when i have zoom on or off, the lower the zoomfov value is the less smooth the game is. But it is not like "unplayable!!1", with lg or mg there is almost no problem at all because it's not the end of the world if i miss one shot with those weapons.

    Also the sensitivity feels a bit different when zoom is on, but i understand that part since it changes the field of view.
    Last edited by str00; 07-01-2012 at 06:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limbless_Pony View Post
    How can you possibly run out of keys? I still have like 10-15 easily accesible ones available, and I do use loads of teambinds (15+?).
    Watch my butterfingers
    Srsly, I can hardly change a bit of binding. The next day a tried space for +zoom and mwheeldown for RL. That was my worst game ever, hell knows why. I kept trying to zoom enemies to death, instead of feeding them some rockets. I tried to bind Capslock, kept missing the button. So my last try would be double bind or to hell +zoom and +mlook as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by str00 View Post
    I didn't mean the moment when i'm zooming in but when the zoom is on already. It's like i'm watching my computer's display with binoculars rather than my player model is using binoculars for zooming. It's quite a hard to explain but the smoothness of the game is very different when i have zoom on or off, the lower the zoomfov value is the less smooth the game is.
    Not true for decent computers.
    Aways ensure you are maintaining a high FPS rate in QL. Otherwise you can be at a big disadvantage. To find out your current fps rate, use the command: "set cg_drawfps "1"".

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