Is zooming vital? (and some binding issues)

[vurun]

First of all, I have quite a lousy binds, but honestly, I do not want to change'em significantly, I've been playing UT'99 with them for a very long time (a very long time ago ).

So it's like:
space-rl
ctrl-rg
shift-lg
alt-sg
q-pg
x-mg
e-gauntlet
r-bfg
t-gl

Having fire/jump on m1/m2 I don't have much place for zoom but assign it for mwheel (I play with Abyssus) - and it sucks (not because of the wheelspin - it's firm, but because I need to change grip for a moment)

So here's the question numero uno
Do I actually need zoom? Watching some strong players I didn't notice they use it.

Numero duo:
Do you use mwheelup/down for weapon binds? I could bind, let's say, RL/LG, having "space" assigned for zooming.

Thanx in advance))

[Cat]

You can't see someone zooming while spectating or watching demos. Most pros use zoom, but no, it's not necessary unless your FOV is too high. It does help, though.

[DocPossible]

Zoom is client side, so you wouldn't see if they use it on most streams, or as a spec Stermy's streams are a little special and you can see him using it there, mostly for RG. I certainly use zoom a lot with RG, but hardly ever for anything else (a bit for long range LG).

btw, ever thought of binding something to 'f', assuming that you're using AWSD as movement keys ? And r for BFG seems a bit prominent Maybe you have a more active little finger than me.

[vurun]

I play with 120 fov))) dunno why, I am just ok with it)
binding F means I lose my right strafe)) and I do actually use strafing when RG aiming)

[malk_]

If you want to use zoomtoggle (click to zoomin and click to zoomout) you could try to multibind your weapon keys. Like hitting ctrl once switches to rail, after that it is changed to +zoom until you hit another weapon bind.

Edit: I thought someone asked how to do this, but the post is gone now. However, for the record:

I think it gets complicated when you want it for every weapon. Only for rail, I had the following code working. It's a zoomtoggle tho, you hit the key to zoom in and it keeps zoomed in until you click again or switch weapons.

set zoomin "+zoom; set ztoggle vstr zoomout"
set zoomout "-zoom; set ztoggle vstr zoomin"

set ztoggle "vstr zoomout"
set resetzoom "-zoom; set ztoggle vstr zoomout"

bind q "weapon 6; vstr resetzoom"
bind mouse2 "weapon 7; vstr ztoggle"

(kudos to zealot from esr ^^)

To make this work properly, you have to set cg_zoomtoggle 0 and add vstr resetzoom to every weapon bind.

[infntnub]

Edit: I thought someone asked how to do this, but the post is gone now. However, for the record:

I had asked how to do it malk but when I figured it out I removed my post. :~)

[vurun]

thanx, i'll try several ways))

[CoolMike]

Numero duo:
Do you use mwheelup/down for weapon binds? I could bind, let's say, RL/LG, having "space" assigned for zooming.

I use mwheeldown for MG currently. I have mwheelup for my +zoom with zoom toggling on. I don't recommend this setting for the zoom however since it doesn't work very well. Also - I almost never zoom. Finally, in order to use mwheel for zooming I would recommend binding something like this: "/bind mwheelup +zoom; wait 15"

The wait makes it so you don't accidentally +zoom and then immediately -zoom by scrolling the wheel too far. Like I said, I don't recommend zooming with the mwheel. My plan is to change this up tonight with a simpler version of the script that _malk just posted. (I plan on using the weapon configs as a pro user to set this up)

Personally I would look at binding F to something - you only miss out on right strafe for a few milleseconds.

Good luck!

[quakestreme]

I really like Ctrl for zooming. You can comfortably hold it down with your pinky while moving. Apparently some of the pros use zooming a huge amount, including for LG. I could never get the hang of this however.

Crouch is something that isn't vital, I have that on alt and never use it.

I have q, e, r, f bound to gauntlet, RL, RG, LG respectively. PG is at capslock and c is grenades. My reasoning is you need the first four to be super fast and comfortable since they are either used a lot (the guns) and gauntlet because if you need it then you often really want to be as fast as possible and for it to upset your movements as little as possible. PG on the other hand is a rarer gun, and gets the first less than optimal button.

[Cat]

Crouch lets you duck some railgun shots if you time it right. And by time it right I mean push the button right as they shoot so that they don't have time to adjust.