Getting Started

I've noticed that Icculus has been having problems lately with slow performance, images don't load half the time. I had figured that someone from one of the other hosted projects was pushing a big SVN update or something. Turns out the server hard drive was dying. Now it's completely down for repairs.

Ryan Gordon, who runs Icculus from which the GtkRadiant site is hosted is currently doing repairs. It'll be back up soon enough. Downloads are still being mirrored at RobotRenegade.


Edit: Everything back to normal.

"TO BE CONTINUED."

Hurry up mate i need tutorial for texture and curved surfaces :) i am impatient as you can see!!

by the way icculus.org is back onlie it seems and this is very handy i suppose : http://icculus.org/gtkradiant/docume...nual/index.htm ty Obsidian ;)

Updated: http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showt...faces&p=253377
Sorry, life is keeping me busy lately. :/

quick question: step height and jump height?
and is it possible to open existing ql maps in radiant?

I think stepheight is 22 units and jumpheight about 72 units. Don't quote me on that though. I meant to put together a map showing all the different measures but didn't get around to it yet.

For opening QL maps in radiant:
You need to decrypt the map pk3 just like you would encrypt a custom pk3 to play in QL. After that, open the decrypted file in an archive manager and grab the .bsp from the maps folder.
Put the .bsp into the same folder as q3map2 (your GTKradiant 1.6 folder) and create a new text file. Rename the text file to .bat and put "q3map2.exe -convert -format map campgrounds.bsp" (without the quotes, replace campgrounds with whatever map you want -- it might be you have to use -convert -format quakelive instead of map; I don't remember exactly). Q3map2 will output the decompiled .map to your radiant folder (texture alignments will be lost though).

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Originally Posted by cityy

I think stepheight is 22 units and jumpheight about 72 units. Don't quote me on that though. I meant to put together a map showing all the different measures but didn't get around to it yet.

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Stepheight is indeed 22 (Source)
According to here, the stepheight (before the update to increase it) was 275...so I'm not sure what that means since you said 72. (Somebody's gotta be wrong :P)

275 doesn't make sense because that is roughly the height of say the MH crate on The Edge. The MH ledge on DM13 is 64 units for instance.

Edit: I was talking **** right there, of course the crates on the edge aren't 275 units high. They are probably about 128 units high.

Yeah I was going to request a map that has unit values on it so we can get an idea of what size things are in units.

Also there's a weird discrepancy between what viewpos shows and what's supposed to be in units. Like the LG is supposed to reach 768 units but I get 500 something hitting a paused bot and taking viewpos measurements.

Yeah you should definitely make a thread with all relevant dimensions. Here's a few to get it started:

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PLAYER BOUNDING BOX
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Bounds relative to origin:
BB mins (x, y, z ) = -15, -15, -24
BB maxes (x, y) = 15, 15
BB max z (standing) = 32
BB max z (crouching) = 16

Dimensions:
BB dimensions (standing) (x, y, z) = 30, 30, 56
BB dimensions (standing) (x, y, z) = 30, 30, 40

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JUMPING
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gravity = 800
jump velocity = 275 UPS
max step height = 22 units

max jump height = 0.5 * gravity * (jump velocity/gravity)^2
= 0.5 * 800 * (275/800)^2
= 400 * 0.118164062
= 47.26 units

max jumpable barrier height = max jump height + max step height
= 47.26 + 22
= 69.26 units

min ceiling height for jump clearance = max jump height + player height
= 47.26 + 56
= 103.26 units

Circle jump considerations:
DM6 bridge width = 384 units
B2R distance = 408 units

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MAX VERTICAL SELF ROCKET KNOCKBACK DISTANCE
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max damage = rocket splash damage * 0.5 = 84 * 0.5 = 42
raw knockback = max damage (capped to 200)
cvar = g_knockback value = 1000
scale = r_knockback_rl_self = 1.10
player mass = 200

max distance = (cvar * scale) * (raw knockback / mass)
= (1000 * 1.10) * (42 / 200)
= 231 units

For rocket jumping you can achieve another ~80 units or so plus the step height. That means that you can reach a platform up to around 330 units above you (example: quad floor to mega in dredwerkz).